#there are many valid ways to stop watching txf
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rosenkranz-does-things 2 months ago
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saw a post that was like "I dropped the x files because I'm too gay to be into msr" and was so surprised but then remembered that not everyone has seen the light of the truth (they're a butch/femme couple)
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nachosncheezies 3 months ago
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In defense of late-canon x files (including the revivals)
I was thinking about this poll after I commented on it, and I kinda want to be brave and say more.
Short answer to the poll's question before I go any further: If you're a new fan and a sensitive sort who thinks you'll struggle with your blorbos Really Going Through It and you really need a happy ending, I suggest you stop at the end of season 8. Do not pass go, do not look at spoilers. Disregard this post entirely, close the internet, and go look at something that makes you happy. (Also fuck every part of society that characterizes sensitivity as inherently weak and bad and some kind of personal failing, you are valid.)
That said, "quality" as a concept is entirely subjective, and the question of whether or not there's a decline in quality for any story is wholly subjective, too. In the case of x files? I'm not convinced there is a decline. I am going to be upfront that I haven't yet watched past season 8, though I am almost completely spoiled on events after that - and the reason I haven't watched yet is not because of how I know events are going to unfold, but simply because I don't want it to end!!! Ohh, the tension between "I CAN'T WAIT!!!" and "Nooo don't be over D:"
When I first came to txf fandom on tumblr and gradually became spoiled about what happens in late canon though, I was often left uncomfortable and tbh kinda queasy about it. As I said in my comment on the poll, the hate for especially the revival and IWTB, or to a lesser extent even seasons 8 & 9, is very well documented. But! There are other takes to be found here on tumblr if you figure out where to look, and my feelings have changed!
The thing is, I have yet to find myself in any fandom where there isn't a vocal subset of fans who dislike the story after a certain point. I am not joking when I say that no one hates the things they love as passionately as sci-fi and fantasy fans. In my experience, it often hinges on the extent to which a viewer has strong notions on where they would like the characters to end up. In particular with series where shipping is a dominant component for the bulk of a fandom, I have almost universally found that there comes some turning point in the story where "let them be happy you cowards" is the dominant view, and things that compromise the attainment of a degree of romantic stability and/or domesticity are, to many fans, annoying at best and despicable at worst. But! As one tagset on the linked poll said:
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and I think for any fandom, that last tag especially is so so so important. (I think that's harder for people watching a weekly series live, bc you have so much time to analyze and speculate and dream before the next breadcrumb drops, but I digress.)
So why am I saying this and how do I apply it to x files? Well, I eventually found that there are also a subset of fans who find redeeming things right up to the very end and actually quite like the whole thing! The things that I had seen people rage and ventpost so much about honestly never quite sounded to me as "out of character" or "untrue to the story" etc as those same ventposts made them sound. And I've discovered I'm not the only one who felt that way. Do I love that the spooky squad had to go through all of those things? No, those poor guys D: Life is hard and they have been through so much trauma. But do those events and their choices make sense to me in light of everything that came before? Yes! And I honestly can't wait to see them fight to overcome those things, breaking, healing, always learning, always growing, always getting better.
So if you're wondering "where does it go wrong"... well, I'm a completionist, as many people who've answered that post are, but also my personal opinion is that I don't think it does go wrong. If you're new and interested in exploring why I've gone from "vaguely queasy" to "excited" about the whole thing, or want to maybe balance out the impressions you're getting about the later seasons before deciding whether or not you want to see the whole thing, I'll put a few blog names in the comments.
Final admission: even once I started feeling a little more confident in the possibility that "actually ok maybe I'm not crazy, maybe this all kind of is in character and does make sense", there was one big plot point that I was NOT looking forward to and I thought I would never be comfortable about. In hindsight, I think my discomfort came from the negative responses being SO seemingly universal that I hadn't stopped to let myself truly consider other possible interpretations on that point. (I mean my initial instinct when I first read about it was, why are we mad about this?? CSM is literally the most unreliable narrator in history???? it's obviously fake news?????? this must be either a fever dream someone's having or it's a misdirection ploy against whatever shadowy forces might still be lurking?????????????? but for whatever reason I guess I had halfway written that off.) Happily, just last month there's a new post-s11 novel out, and although reviews for the book as a whole are mixed, it seems to have laid the groundwork for resolving that plot issue in a way I think most fans would be broadly happy with. If you're interested in being spoiled about that and seeing how, I recommend searching #perihelion on @agent-troi who liveblogged reading it with receipts, scroll back chronological-style to the first post on the subject and see how it unfolded. (And never forget that Dana Katherine Scully is the queen of denial as a coping mechanism lol)
Everyone's mileage will vary. Each person can feel however they want! But for anyone new, I wanted you to know that the very many ventposts you might be seeing are not all there is to this show or its fandom. Some of us love it despite - or even because of - all the things that went "wrong". I think we just don't talk about it as much.
#i don't talk about it much because tbh it can get *fraught*. and i've had that in other fandoms too.#i added and deleted so many qualifiers from this post over it lmao#people are passionate about fandom which is great! as a concept#but it sucks feeling like most people hate the thing you love or that - however diplomatically it's phrased - you should hate it too#or that folks think maybe you *would* be mad if you just looked at it a certain (sometimes seemingly cast as the 'correct') way#basically it's insane that half the time when i see people standing up and praising the revival i'm like 'damn bruh. you brave'#and feeling that way is partly a me thing. but i've seen posts that also lead me to believe it's not JUST a me thing yaknow?#i always wonder whether the 'vocal subset' in any given fandom who hate a thing are really the majority that they appear to be#or if they just appear to be the majority because they've needed to be vocal about it as a sort of internet support group thing lol#which fair enough i mean anyone's entitled to be disappointed or have feelings#for me? i don't think i can remember ever being mad about a series i liked#i'm just here for the vibes man i very rarely have fixed notions#i say to the writers: go ahead and surprise me. i'll make sense of pretty much anything they throw at me#i also think about a dd quote i saw ages ago that as an actor you (paraphrased): can't say 'the character would not do that'#...because if it's in the script then by definition they *did* do that. it's right there on the page.#and that's kind of me as a fan too.#p.s. i fucking love season 8 i love angst and holy shit it delivers. the new characters are fantastic the journey is *chef's kiss* and#yes i consider certain temperamental even assholeish behavior to also be *chef's kiss* there's so much trauma so much reason for it#it's be-yoo-ti-ful 馃挄 season 8 my beloved 馃槏#anyway watch it all watch none do what you want. just know that there are people who would cuddle the whole damn thing from start to finish#like a floppy wet lil raggedy ann doll if only they COULD#x files#the x files#txf revival#txf thoughts#i love you floppy wet raggedy ann doll
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waynedunlaptheorgandonor 3 years ago
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literally almost every single episode of the walking dead, with the exception of like, bottle episodes, the exact same spoiler freakout narrative happens, and then the episode airs and it's fine. every time. every single time i've witnessed it, the freakout has always been blown way out of proportion in comparison to what is on the screen. and i'm genuinely not shitting on anyone here, bc ik ppl who have been here longer have been through the ringer re: s6-8, but like. if it happens every. single. time. at what point do you just like, stop listening to the spoiler freakout narrative? do you even enjoy the show anymore at this point?
i explicitly avoid the discourse and it still finds me, and what stresses me out aren't the spoilers themselves, but it's when i see one that ik can and will be taken out of context even a little bit, and i get overwhelmingly anxious for the sheer fact that i know that there is going to be a massive flood of like, real life anger and hatred and fighting that is ALWAYS FINE by the end. i can understand frustration, and i can understand annoyance, but the absolute fury some people have is just. incomprehensible to me. if it's making you that upset then don't watch it. if every week you're like "i'm so done with this show," then mb actually be done with it.
again, i'm not targeting anyone specifically, and i'm definitely not targeting the ppl who get frustrated but don't go out of their way to ruin it for everyone else. your feelings are valid etc. but i'm bummed that i have people on here i actually want to interact with bc it's fun and makes me happy, but there is no way to do that while being 100% free of the bonkers stuff. i could leave social media entirely, but i don't want to bc the ppl that are great are really great, and the good parts of the fandom are really good, but oof y'all. sometimes you make it hard. if things don't happen the way we want them to, we have so many talented artists and writers who can create content that we can immerse ourselves in. that's the thing that's so cool about fandom. it is entirely what you make it. and ik i have a weird bias bc my previous hardcore fandoms are pairings that were never going to be canon regardless (w/ the exception of txf, but that counts as its own hell), so i'm used to living off of the scraps from the source material and then taking it into the fandom where its weaved into gold, but i really don't understand what some of you get out of being here.
idk, there's no real point to this, or any agenda i'm pushing. it just makes me kind of sad
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greekowl87 7 years ago
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Fic: Shopping Expedation
Written for the @txf-prompt-box challenge for September 1st. Mulder shopping for tampons. Oh my. Set early season three.
Mulder could not help but feel overprotective of her. Ever since her abduction six months ago, he vowed to himself to do everything in his power to keep her safe. To the point of annoying her and Scully threatening to shoot him again.
"Mulder, I don't need help!"
He could feel her icy glare from across her apartment from where he sat on her couch. She hobbled awkwardly on the crutches, holding her injured right ankle a few inches about the floor. She hopped across the apartment to sit down next to him on the couch. She groaned in pain as she propped her ankle up on her coffee table under a pillow.
"Scully, you sprained your ankle, your right ankle, mind you, which is your driving ankle. How do you think you'll drive?"
"With my left foot."
"Okay? What about your groceries?"
"Slow and steady wins the race."
"You'll exhaust yourself, fall over, and injury something else."
"And whose fault is it again that I sprained my ankle?"
"I did not tell you to run in heels. Besides, what did the doctor say? You have a severe sprain and you need to stay off your feet."
"Need I remind you that I am a medical doctor?"
"Yeah, but most of your patients are dead."
She narrowed her eyes in annoyance. It was not that she was not grateful for the help. She was. Scully was just too stubborn and prideful. She had declined to stay at her mother's during her recovery, stressing she was perfectly capable of staying in her own apartment. But it was difficult for her. She just would never admit it. As soon as she came home though, Mulder was there in the hour, insisting on taking care of her. It was an improvement over the three a.m. phone calls and she did enjoy his company. They had grown closer as partners and friends since her abduction. But what he was doing now was down right suffocating.
"Mulder, you're worse than my mother."
"I'm your partner and partners help each other out."
"It's a sprained ankle. I'm fine, Mulder."
"Come on, Scully, just swallow your pride and humor me. It just me doing your grocery shopping. How hard can it be? Please? Just let me help you, if not for you, but my own sake? I cannot go on knowing you lack adequate groceries."
She sighed as he jutted out his lower lip, giving her his best puppy dog look. She could not refuse him, especially when he looked at her like that. "Fine," she consented. "Let me get you my card."
. . . .
Grocery shopping is an easy task, Mulder mused. He pulled the shopping cart out and entered the Giant that was close to her apartment. He looked at the list in his hand, each item on its own line in her neat cursive. Milk, eggs, bread (Hawaiian kind), pasta, bananas, cereal, tampons. He winced slightly at the last item before shrugging. How hard could it be?
Turns out, not that hard at all. Milk was easy. He had seen the gallon of 2% milk in her fridge nearly empty earlier and remembered she often used half and half in her coffee at the office, so he grabbed both. Easy. Eggs and bread. A piece of cake. Pasta. He paused at the aisle, wondering if she had a preference. Penne was easy. Everyone like penne. Spaghetti too. Those were the default pastas of any pasta dish. Smiling to himself, he wandered down the aisle a little more and grabbed a box of tortellini, a bag of frozen vegetables, and one of those little packets to make alfredo sauce. She had not said anything about dinner and would probably shoot him in his other shoulder, but he was determined to make her dinner too tonight. Pasta was not that hard. He could make a simple salad as well.
He pushed the cart proudly into the produce aisle and picked up the required bananas on her shopping list and what he assumed the freshest ingredients to make a small salad with their pasta dinner. He wanted to take care of Scully, even if she did not let him. He still felt guilty for her abduction and doing small things like helping her out while she was hurt or just making her a simple dinner validated him and, in his mind, showed her that he cared deeply for her without actually saying it aloud.
Cereal was easy too as he ventured through the other aisles. He even grabbed a chocolate cream pie from the bakery for dessert. Despite all of the success of his shopping expedition, he still had one more stop to make as he came to the dreaded aisle of first aid, bathing products, and feminine hygiene products. He groaned inwardly seeing the many options. Mulder stopped the cart and crossed his arms in serious thought. How hard was it to get tampons? There were different sizes. Different brands making false promises. Others for different days of different flows. It made his head spin.
He was so lost in thought he jumped when he heard a deep voice call behind him in surprise. "Agent Mulder?"
Mulder spun to see no one other than his boss, Assistant Director Skinner, dressed in jeans and worn polo pushing a shopping cart of his own. "Um, sir, what a coincidence running into you here," he stammered, trying to look casual.
Skinner nodded to the shelves on tampons. "Tampax is a good brand to go with. I recommend the everyday flow." He nodded to Mulder. "Have a good weekend, Agent Mulder."
Mulder's cheeks flushed red with embarrassment as he grabbed the suggested box and threw it in the cart and made a beeline to the check out aisle. He did his best to try and act casual as the cashier rung up the groceries. He drew out his own money and paid for Scully's groceries and left as quickly as he could.
. . . .
"I see some things that weren't on my list, Mulder." Scully watched him put away her groceries, directing him as needed. "Especially the makings for a salad and that pie. How did you know I liked cream pies anyway?"
He shrugged with a warm smile. "Lucky guess. I figured I could make us dinner tonight and watch a movie or something. That way, you won't burn down your apartment, you can rest and heal, and won't be bored out your mind."
She pursed her lips, debating to argue with him but just smiled instead. "I'd like that a lot, Mulder."
"Oh." He held up the box of tampons for her approval. "Before I forget, did I do good? I mean, I wasn't sure..."
"You got the right ones," she said, her cheeks flushing with embarrassment. "Thank you."
He put the offending box back in the paper bag, choosing not to tell Scully who he had encountered at the grocery store. She would have been mortified. "Well, the least I could do," he smiled. "Why don't you pick us out a movie and I'll start on dinner?"
She smiled and nodded in agreement.
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